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ITR 23: Blockbuster's Still Exist
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Jan 31, 2025
Join Conrad and Chris as they discuss the hottest topics in the NHL. Including Alex Pietrangelo withdrawing from the 4-Nations Faceoff, Mikko Rantanen and Taylor Hall traded to the Carolina Hurricanes, Will Borgen & Logan Thompson sign extensions, and MUCH MUCH MORE!
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all righty welcome back to the inside the ring podcast uh I'm your host Conrad Jack and I'm
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joined by Chris this week and we got a lot to go through Chris how are you
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doing I am good and man the episode title lives up to the name after this
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weekend well there was almost an emergency episode if there was an if and
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we're not going to get into the if because I don't like the ifs yeah we'll just leave it very vague uh but it could
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have been more and so could be who knows uh trade deadlines going to be
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interesting that's that's all I'm gonna say about that hey yeah uh with just
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sports book and yeah the title of this episode
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Blockbusters still exist and it's titled accordingly because the the Carolina
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Hurricanes took a huge swing but there's a little bit there's more rumors
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surrounding or they're at least involved in some more stuff who knows if they're
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out now it's you can't really you can't rule it out but JG Miller has been
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allowed to speak with the New York Rangers in the Carolina Hurricanes those are the two teams on
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the list who knows if there's more but Chris I'm GNA let you take it away here
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well so it's funny that when this came out the other day and I saw it um I thought it was pretty funny that we had
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talked a couple weeks ago about the Rangers and you know I just threw out the name mik zenat as a possible trade
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option and that that was a no earlier and now all of a sudden he's allowed to talk to the Miller is allowed to talk to
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the Rangers and intriguing what an offer could look like on that end and
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originally the Carolina Hurricanes like you said was the other team but from what I had seen over the
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weekend once they made the trade with um Colorado and Chicago the three team
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trade they were taken out of the conversation Al together I guess they started with Miller when the con they
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were allowed to have conversation the price was too steep they pivoted to Pon
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that was a little too Steep and then they went right to ronon and Taylor Hall which we'll get to in a little bit um my
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okay I I just want to jump in here with the way that teams have been very
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aggressive in the last two years at the trade deadline some teams have a Do or
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Die win now window and I think that's where the Carolina Hurricanes that's why
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they took the swing they did and maybe they might look at that price for Miller
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they might Circle back and they who knows the Vancouver Canucks might not
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have a realistic option other than the Carolina Hurricanes come trade deadline
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day if they if they're serious of if the Canucks are serious about moving
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Miller you like they might just say you know what it gets him off our books and
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it it gets all the media tension out of here so like you never
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know I think with we got what month and a week probably five
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weeks till the deadline I think you're going to see that door open to more teams with him having a conversation and
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then obviously as we get closer the price will drop like you said and who knows maybe other teams
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will say like this price is astronomical like it's way too steep for us and
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Carolina might be sitting there saying hey here's our minimum and it's higher than every other
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team and it still may not be a great return
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but who who knows like the whole JT Miller situation it's
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interesting and we'll get into more of that later in the episode with bit of
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rumor stuff but let's the meat and potatoes of this
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episode is the MEO rattin and Blockbuster and I got a discussion topic
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is could this spark more teams to move their pending ufas but first I want to
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get into the Ranon Blockbuster in of itself the Hurricanes acquire Mig ranton
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Taylor Hall and the rights to Nils jorp or jorp uh the uh Colorado Avalanche acquir
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Martin NIS Jack Drury a 2025 second round pick a 2025 fourth round pick
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while the Chicago Blackhawks retain half of M renan salary and also get a 2025
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third round pick which was their own pick I believe and what a trade and
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Chris my first NHL game in the Press Box um so that was quite the night for me I
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was a lot of emotions on my end and then I'm speaking to a lot of media people
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but the lady from the Salt Lake Tribune her and I are sitting I was sitting with them visiting media that's where I
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sitting and we're just we're all like holy crap like the second that Sarah Vol
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tweeted that M rtin and was being traded to the Carolina Hurricanes were like oh
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all right there has to be a guy like aho snov or Jarvis going back and I was it
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was all of us were saying there was no way that the Hurricanes were getting out of that without giving a big player and
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they got out of it without giving a big player like Chris what was your initial reaction to that so I was at dinner in
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Boston and my phone is just going off nonstop and I'm like something's wrong
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and I didn't have my son with me so I thought something was wrong with my son so I got up excuse myself went to the
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bathroom and I the first thing I see and you said his name all I saw was a tweet that says Jarvis was not included in
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this trade I'm like what what trade what just happened so I'm going through Twitter now and I see ronon's name and
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then I see Hall's name and I'm like this is a massive trade and then I realize both of them are going to
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Carolina I was mindblown I'm like this has got to be a bigger return like what
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else is coming if Jarvis isn't included and then all of a sudden like it was a long night before all the pieces finally
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trickled in I mean it was what probably 10 o'clock my time halfway through the third period in uh in the Jets game by
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the time everything finalized I was sitting there and I was I was like
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where is everything like this has got to be more coming
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is yeah know we like I was talking to all like a lot of the Winnipeg media and
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I was talking to the visiting media the two people from the visiting media and we're like we were
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just we were taking back it was wild for a trade like of that magnitude
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to happen on a Friday night just it was crazy and it's a like it's a
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story I'm going to tell forever obviously because not every day you get your first game in the Press Box
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and like Taylor Hall for a first overall pick this is his seventh NHL
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team it was it's obviously a much needed restart for him and it allows them to
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get into a competitive market again m ranin is I can't remember when he was
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drafted I think it was like seventh or eighth overall and it might be lower
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but a player of his magnitude he's arguably a top three
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Winger in the league right now and that's the kind of player that
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Carolina is getting you're adding the known chemistry that he has had before
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with Sebastian AO because they grew up together and they played together
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M to all like Carolina gets out of this trade without giving up a big player and
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that's no disrespect Martin NES Carolina gets a or Colorado gets a good uh Center
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in NES but when you look at NES and uh Ranon
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and do you think those pieces as the main pieces going back and forth align in this trade because I don't truthfully
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they also didn't give up a first round pick yeah and that's another that's
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another thing to realize now I remember like there was a
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lot of people saying like oh uh Carolina isn't done and all that or not Carolina
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Colorado isn't done and we're all I just remember we're all frantically sitting
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there like there's no way call colado is going to make a swing like this and
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Crosby's name floated out well and Kevin weeks had a lot to do with that posting
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the Pittsburgh Skyline and who knows maybe he was
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posting that because he knows something that we don't but I don't think personally I don't
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think that was the right time to put some more gasoline on that fire
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no and yeah it was a crazy night like it's not every day you get a massive
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trade a blockbuster trade like that
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and I had a like I don't want to say I knew he was getting traded because I'm
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not an Insider but I almost had that gut feeling that ranin wasn't going to be a
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Colorado Avalanche by the end of the season yeah I would thought he would be
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but I was a little shocked he was moved see where I get like where I'm
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coming from is he already turned down a12 million
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extension he want like he wants to be the highest paid Winger in the league he also wants to make more than McKinnon on
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the team that's a like everybody knew that
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the other thing that like Colorado has to look at their like they're looking at
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their team they obviously have an internal cap and they're obviously looking two to
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three years down the line when you got kalea Mar he's making n million right now he
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signed that six-year deal and it was known that he took a pay cut so that they could try to win
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again don't get me wrong Mar is a really good player but if not if $9 million is
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what he took for a pay cut you're looking at maybe four 15 million for
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marar when he's due again well that's a good question because we talked about this a couple weeks ago makes me wonder too with the
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extension of Blackwood did that kind of play the hand a little bit here that we got to move him now because we extended
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our goalie and like you said Mar is gonna be extended soon very and that's going to be very expensive
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but this whole Ranon and Blockbuster isn't about the team itself or the the
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Colorado Avalanche itself like we could go on forever about how this affects the
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team and we'll get into that in a minute but my first topic that I want to talk about regarding the Ranon and
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Blockbuster is could this spark more teams to move pending
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ufas my first thing is you look at the New York Islanders with Brock Nelson the
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Winnipeg Jets with Nikolai eers guys with High Caliber
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guys who are High Caliber uh forwards or defenseman even like Rasmus Anderson and
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Calgary too could we see teams who are in win
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now mode trade their pending ufas to teams that they know that player will
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sign there anyways and try to recoup at least something I can see it I mean I think
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the we talked about it what last week or the week before with the four nations break I
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I think this is going to be what starts it if it's gon to happen think you're G see some deals coming the whole thing
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with that is ly Holm got traded in January last year there's always a good trade or two in
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January and that there's always a trade deadline before the trade deadline that's kind of how it
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is but I think this could just like you were saying is I think this could
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be what catapults it all so and
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yeah um I when I look at pending ufas when you look at the UFA
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Market Carolina had to be very certain that they were going to be able to resign
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ranin because if you lose if you lose him in free
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agency you didn't swing as much as he could granted there's also other ufas on
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the market market like big name ufas too
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but is there that m rantin in caliber player available not that I
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see here and another thing that I've seen is people are saying is oh yeah M ranin
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might resign in Colorado in I unrestricted free agency and you know
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how chaotic that would be if there was handshake deal under the
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table and he does that that would be
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something yeah I don't want to speculate too much but I saw something on Twitter
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it was just a little throrough kind of deal no speculation really there but now
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the other discussion topic about things is did the Colorado Avalanche lose the m rantin in trade or is it too early to
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say and Chris do you think it's too early to say on paper yeah they lost it
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but you know you look at what they did yesterday with both of the guys they acquired in this trade and you know
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niches had two assists and Jory had a goal so are they sliding in and fitting
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in well um I don't think maybe I'm wrong has Ron they played right Ronson and in
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Hall they both played yeah they didn't do anything I mean so that was their
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first game ronon in Hall I mean and gred neither of the two guys in Colorado on
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the score sheet their first game they did in the second game so right now on
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paper with the names yes in a week I might have a different answer for you
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okay so I feel like this could be an interesting discussion topic that we have maybe uh when Jade is with us
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again I mean I look at the standings right now in Colorado where they are and
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Carolina where they are Carolina's okay I think I mean we'll talk about the
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reason why I think that in a little while but Colorado with with the moves they made and what they
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got they could make a run to be in that third spot maybe even second spot in the
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Central division with the way things have seen after two games with their new
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Acquisitions so I'm going to pull up the standings very quick but just kind of the way their position
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is Minnesota has been on a downslide but like realistically the Central Division
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should be wiip Winnipeg and Colorado should be neck and neck for first Dallas
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and col or Dallas and Minnesota and St Louis should be fighting for third
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fourth and fifth I put Dallas in that conversation with Winnipeg and
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Colorado I I can see what you're saying just with the punch that I've
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seen from Winnipeg and Colorado this season because Colorado's they've gone through the adversity that every team
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needs go through in the regular season and they went through it early in the year with how many guys were hurt at
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once like they were playing guys that were fourth line ahlers no disrespect to
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them either because the AHL is still a great place to play you see great development in
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that league but like also we saw guys up in the NHL who had no business being there
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other than guys are hurt so Colorado having faced that
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adversity early on in the season it was good for them Dallas I haven't seen a whole lot
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of adversity on their end I haven't seen I haven't seen something that they're
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going to have to work through as a team that's just my opinion on the team
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but when you take a look at when you take a look at the mold of teams that go
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far in the playoffs take a look at the first year that Tampa won the cup they were without
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uh Captain Stamkos he came in and played two minutes in something odd seconds scored
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a goal and that was it that was their
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adversity uh trying to think of another good example but I cannot stop my head
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like Stanley Cup winning teams need that adversity and right now for me Colorado
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is emerging as an early favorite to win the cup
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like that's that's kind of where I'm at so like you have any more thoughts on that you say adversity in Dallas I think
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losing San's a big one he had 20 points in 19 games before he
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went out with that hip
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injury okay I can see what you're saying with the Sean thing but like
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I I don't know how to formulate my thought on this one because Sean's a good player but does he strike you as
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the game changing player that Dallas needs night in and night out I mean he C
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especially where he was playing I think he was on the third line and second line for a little while so he gives you if he's on the third line gives you that
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bottom six scoring you're looking for so it's a key piece to you know a team that
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was towards the top I mean they still are but they're not as close as they were earlier in the season to the top of
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the Central Division I look at and you talk about Colorado being a Stanley Cup team my big
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thing I look at with a lot of teams that I think could win the cup is what they have in
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and that's where I put Dallas I I want to say far ahead but maybe not far ahead
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of Colorado if Dallas can make it farther than the Conference Finals and I know
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there's only one more round after the Conference Finals before people come at me about that but if Dallas goes farther
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like if Dallas goes to the Stanley Cup Final in the next two to three years
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with the way that they like with the way they've built they'll win the cup they just need to go through
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whatever playoff like it's like the Leafs the Leafs need to really just
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hunker down in the playoffs Dallas other than the one year
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in the bubble that they made the sanley Cup Final I can't really put my finger on a
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team that should have won the cup with the Dallas Stars
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so like last year they added Chris tanov and made a couple of really good uh
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Acquisitions at the deadline but there was nothing that stood out to me about them that said hey watch this
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team and I know Jake Ginger is he wants to be the starter at the four nations
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but I I think he'll be the starters uh stared at the four nations because one
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it's an NHL sanctioned tournament and two the guy in front of him might just
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take it as a bit of time to rest and relax not saying that he won't take it serious uh seriously
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but the guy in front of him who's arguably going to win the vzna and the
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Jennings for second consecutive year barring anything significant happens on the
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season he's also going to be in the heart trophy conversation Conor helu's
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having one hell of a year with the way that like the Central Division lines up right
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now you could argue six teams in the central make the playoffs
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if if the if the NHL playoffs was based off of points I can only see two teams
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out of the Pacific and six in the central making the playoffs right now that's just what I see but then you
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look at St Louis and Utah who are well out of a playoff spot at the moment uh behind
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La just like there's a lot to say and kind of circling back over to
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Colorado uh Colorado and Dallas actually they do they both have that
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element that they need to go far in playoffs but the year that Colorado won the cup
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you had guys with experience and you guys you had guys that knew what it took you had veterans who knew what it
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took I'm not saying Dallas didn't have that Winnipeg hasn't had that they don't
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like they added at the deadline don't get me wrong defol and monan were great additions
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but playoffs is a whole different bear and yeah that's kind of what I'm
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thinking Chris do you have any things to add on that I don't it's gonna I mean
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that division's to me like you said with this with this trade I disagree
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partially on the six teams in the in the central yeah I think the kings are definitely a team in the Pacific that
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could get in and make a run especially with the way Ker's been playing and
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they're supposed to be getting dowy back I don't know if he's playing tonight I thought he was but I haven't seen him
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maybe I'm missing something but that's another team that I look at that can make a run because they have
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experience um the other team that we don't talk about and we talked about them last week in the central is
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Nashville but we won't get in too much into that but they're one of the hottest teams in that Division and they can
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definitely make a run to get back in and I think even if things struggle in Colorado they could catch
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Colorado maybe not S7 a little steep I think we're going to really see
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Colorado's endurance after this trade because 32 32 games left for Colorado
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and 34 Le for Nashville Colorado has 17 points in
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hand like we're looking at we're looking at a team
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that they've had their D like they've paid their dues and they've really gone
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through the gutter some day uh some years Nashville if they figure it out
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and they go on another heat like if they go on a heater like the 160 And1 after the can YouTu
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concert we could see quite a different playoff picture right now M but I think
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we're looking at a pretty firm playoff picture for this year I don't see it changing very
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much there's always that sleeper team yeah I mean there's three that so far
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that I think could have a chance that that are out of it right now or four actually in the west at least well if
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we're going to talk talk about sleeper teams look at where Columbus is they're
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a team I think that's going to get in I just think they have a lot going for him now do you do you see them knocking
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out Tampa in the wild card I could see them knocking out either team in the Wild Card
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okay now teams like this like this is becoming a playoff
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discussion and we to save that probably till the four nations break but yeah
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well we'll get more into it anyways but like I know this kind of out of the
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realm of topics right now but what do you think about Boston missing playoffs they're on my list of teams I
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don't think get in because they're they're holding on by a
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hope and a prayer Montreal three points back with two games in hand Tampa is one point back
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with three games in hand they're a team though all year whenever they slide out of the playoff
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spot they somehow find a way to win the next game to get back in and I think we
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saw I think it was over the weekend before Ottawa played last night yeah they found a way to win I think it was
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two straight to slide right back in to the three spot and then Ottawa won last night and took the three spot away from
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in the Atlantic so now they have the top wild card spot yeah and what about
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Ottawa man mik they're a team I mean that's we talked about this before we logged on
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with San and that issue you're seeing you know I think the real true goalie
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taking care of business in Ottawa yeah and SW or not swayman uh
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allmar being out long term right now with the back injur it's Ottawa is
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they're still finding ways to win and that's showing you the what they've done
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as a team to mature right so I think Ottawa is going to go
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out and make a big splash before maybe right at the deadline and we'll get into
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that near the end of the episode but I would love to continue talking uh playoff
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stuff we got a lot to get through still but yeah Chris let's talk about some
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Scouts for the Vegas golden knights New Jersey Devils Seattle Kraken Winnipeg
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Jets Los Angeles Kings Philadelphia Flyers and Carolina Hurricanes at
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yesterday's game or Chicago Blackhawks game so I saw this come across last
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night and I texted you to add it to the list for tonight and I went through and
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I was kind of shocked when I saw the names so I the only three ufas they have
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going into this offseason is Ryan Donado Pat maroon and Craig Smith and Craig
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Smith is currently on I are and obviously they have more but some of those guys are playing the AHL right now
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and obviously if you're there scouting somebody you're not there scouting Craig Smith and then I looked at the list and
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I see the Devils the Flyers and the Hurricanes three teams that play in the
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Metro are they there scouting Somebody Like Pat maroon who can take care of
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somebody like a team that's red hot right now or was red hot and they're fighting back into the playoff spot in
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the Rangers Somebody Like Pat maroon that they could add to their team that battles against Matt Ry and of course
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other bigger body players in the Eastern Conference in the playoff spot one name that I did see obviously
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talking about Pat maroon that we talked about this team already the hurricanes and Pat maroon would be interesting to
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see give something on their fourth line with a body that could be something that
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they very much need come playoff time yeah honestly I I look at how the
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like I'm looking at the roster I don't see anyone on the
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Carolina Hurricanes that can go out and do that sort of uh job when needed when
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it's coming into playoffs like Carolina it's year in and
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year out that they get bounced and last year was all in or nothing because
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they had very limited cap space in a lot of you like there was a lot of turnover in
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Carolina but we'll see come we'll see come
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playoffs or trade deadline I guess what that uh what they do and what they're going to uh build but
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when I look at the Chicago Blackhawks and what they have available they haven't right away at
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trading guys with term look at Jake mccab uh there was a couple others that
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I had but they have Elia mckv and I think that'll be an in interesting uh
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player he'll be he's an experienced player he plays either
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way the bigger body on the ice but $2 million at half rain is not going
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to be very cheap for any team cuz Chicago only has that one retained
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slot granted both their retained slots they're opening up at the end of the year
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but they're going to weaponize those
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slots uh with so many Scouts circling the
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Chicago Blackhawks at the moment we're going to see as time kind
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of passes I don't see anything imminent
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when it comes to a trade with the Chicago Blackhawks right now at least after they traded Taylor Hall of course
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yeah so just with that all kind of set in
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kind of in place let's talk about a team that they're kind of dealing with
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adversity themselves and that's the New Jersey Devils which goenda markstrom is out four to six
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weeks with a knee sprain Chris take it
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away well that's a big loss for Devil's team that's holding on the third place
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in their division and as of going into play tonight I mean they have a seven-point
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lead over Columbus and the Rangers are coming as well the team I talked about
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earlier marom gets the benefit of the timing of all of this he's not going to play in the four nations so he gets two
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weeks off so part of that four to six weeks two of them he won't be worrying about like he won't be playing in any
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games for the Devils um or won't be missing any games I guess for the Devils
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uh could be a conversation that opens the door for a team like you said Columbus I mean that's a big loss I mean
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he's been part of the reason they've been in games he's part of the reason they are where they are uh um that like
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another team like I said the Rangers I just see one of those teams possibly present an opportunity to take that
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third spot in the Metro especially with this loss and it's showing tonight actually
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as I talk about that they're showing on the screen right now last I saw or what it shows right now is 31
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Flyers against the Devils okay well
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yeah the Devils it's going to be interesting with how long markr is going
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to be out because this is a crucial Time of the Season to figure out what you're
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doing the devils are a team that they don't need another pick that's in the top
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16 they are going to be trying to
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win it's been forever that
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oh oh sorry oh my goodness it's been a few
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years that they've gone out and tried to get that goal tender like they had
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Blackwood before and he didn't pan out they've overhauled their goal tending
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tandem but now you get Jacob arrom and he's your guy when he's out
35:58
they're thin in N like don't get me wrong Jake Allen it
36:06
is Jake Allen is pretty good but if he's your starter
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for four to six weeks are are you confident if you're
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the New Jersey Devils no and
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yeah like they're not the Edmonton Oilers who can just out they can outscore their opponents at a whim if
36:34
they choose to so they got to rely on having solidified
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goenda contingency plan if markr went down
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nope like I don't think Ottawa did either but Ottawa is do they're AF
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flat I find way with their other goalie yeah uh Ottawa
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like what they're doing is great the Devils need to figure it out soon what's
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going on because it's going to be a matter of if markstrom if he's out any longer than
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six weeks you're you're hoping for you're
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hoping that something happens like a miracle happens with a third
37:26
Stringer I would would even say I would go as far as saying four weeks because like you said two of those granted are
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the break and but if he's out if he makes it to that full six weeks there
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could be an issue where they're out of it and they need him back and he may not be ready and they Rush him back and it
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causes more issues I don't think the Devils can afford to rush him
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back they might have to I mean there might be an issue I mean I'm looking at their schedule right now
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obviously struggling tonight against the Flyers they have the Flyers again on Wednesday Sabres Penguins Vegas and
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Montreal before the break so winnable games on there before the break but then
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they come back and it's Dallas Nashville Colorado Utah Vegas Dallas Winnipeg and
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that's going right into the first week of
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March well we're going to see an a very interesting uh threat for New Jersey and
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what they do and who knows maybe they go out and get a another
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goenda could see I think they might be looking at it and say you know what we need a NHL
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caliber [Music]
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goenda guy in mind you might call me crazy for a second I think the New Jersey Devils
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might be ringing up the Winnipeg Jets who have kappal kin it and
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miners I could see that that makes me think of another team where I think vly huso vly huso or Jack Campbell yep like
39:10
gr Rapids just played in Mano or in Winnipeg the other night is of course Campbell didn't start
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but he was backing up uh HOSA the other night
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so I could see one of those two guys getting shipped should they should they
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be able to play to that uh level of pressure yep because you know when
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they're going in there's a lot of there's a lot riding on
39:41
them so I'll leave that there the next thing I want to talk about more of a
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quick hit kind of deal is Will borgan is extended for five years with the New York
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Rangers or four years I'm reading I have two different
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things I have TSN saying four years but I'm pretty sure it was four years
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I'll go with no it has to be five if it's 20.5 I'm gonna go with five I saw
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five yeah I see 20.5 million salary and 4.10 million capit so will borgan
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extended for five years uh $4.1 million
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uh yeah the first thing I want to say about this extension
40:36
is what like it was a really good praise when it comes out from
40:45
goenda shurin I'm losing my mind because I threw myself off uh shurin praised uh
40:53
boran's play when it comes to how like he just blocks a lot of shots and he's really
40:59
good defensively and obviously churin likes him if he's like hey this guy is
41:05
great we need him on the team so the Rangers their head office obviously got
41:11
that message so they signed them they gave him the contract I saw a lot of
41:17
people saying oh this is way too soon and we saw Blackwood get an extension
41:24
after like four games yep why not why not give borgan the contract
41:30
that he obviously earned with uh just
41:36
curin like I don't know that's my thoughts on that one Chris do you have any thoughts he's looked like a great
41:42
fit with the Rangers I mean there's they made that trade for cop uh for kako
41:47
trading that's how they got him um but they look at a different team since they acquired them I mean they're back in the
41:54
conversation for the playoffs and that's I mean they got also got sheren back in that time frame not like quick wasn't
42:00
keeping them in games but they a different team and a lot of people when
42:05
I saw the trade go through between Seattle and the Rangers saying that he was going to be a good fit there and he
42:11
was something that they needed and obviously shuren coming out making the comments he made solidifies that and
42:19
that's why you see this extension I think come in now is the team all around feels that way and they see the spark
42:26
that he's provided he can do for them that I think it's a great move I think
42:31
it's a smart call and I think it's a what they
42:37
needed yeah no I agree with you Chris and borgan is obviously one of the
42:43
Defenders that the Rangers have needed because after that trade they've
42:49
actually been doing a lot better than people give them credit for so that's kind of my thoughts on
42:56
that another contract extension happened today too and that was Logan Thompson
43:02
six years s or 5.85 million Chris what are your thoughts on
43:09
it I mean the way he's playing this year that's a fantastic deal and we talked
43:14
about this before we logged in so I started crunching numbers and I didn't realize he's 222 and three this year
43:21
with a 2.09 goals against average and a 925 save percentage his last loss was in a relief
43:30
outing on January 10th and that was an overtime his last regulation loss was
43:37
December 17 in his last five games he's undefeated with two shutouts a 0.79
43:46
goals against average and a 9.69 save percentage in those five games there's a
43:52
reason and we talked about the moves that they made aside of him this off season but there's a reason the capitals
43:58
are you know the top team in the Metro right now and in one of the top teams in the Eastern Conference and it's the way
44:05
that Logan Thompson's been playing in net for them they finally got their goalie you know and they looked like a
44:12
genius trading Darcy keer and getting Pier Luke du and then adding Thompson
44:17
among others yeah we talked about that y I mean they just they found a piece that
44:23
they needed I mean it seems like I don't want to get carried away with with the comment but they got it seems like so
44:30
far they've got their goalie that they've been lacking since hopei left and you know we talked about it he
44:37
was expected to be the guy in Vegas they end up going with Hill and he found his
44:45
home he seems comfortable and it's a steal for
44:52
Washington if he can keep this play up it's an absolute steal
44:58
it's highway robbery that he's on a contract under $6
45:05
million but I think that was also him going off of what he's done and how
45:10
steady he's been and saying hey he probably said I want seven and
45:17
they said okay we want to pay you 5.5 and they maybe they like I'm I'm just
45:24
throwing this out here by the way maybe he actually started at 6.5 they started at 5.5 and then they kind of met at
45:32
5.85 it's like we were't in negotiations but
45:37
also negotiations happen and I think that's a good realistic number long term
45:43
for Thompson and he gets six years of stability like he's he's making
45:49
$775,000 this year I think a lot of people forget that
45:55
when it comes to contracts and
46:01
who knows maybe it was a case of they went out and they had a lot of confidence that Thompson could be the
46:07
guy because Vegas he was supposed to be the guy in Vegas and Aiden Hill came in
46:12
out of nowhere seemingly came out of nowhere and stole the
46:18
show I wouldn't be surprised if Washington thought lingren was going to be the guy and then they saw Thompson
46:24
after the first month of the season and that's that's when things changed maybe and yeah no Logan Thompson I told
46:32
the story last week and he gets traded and then 15 minutes later at the draft
46:37
he's got to go to a signing so it was it's it's interesting to see
46:46
these things and yeah speaking of uh contracts Tony
46:53
D'Angelo is back in the NHL he was terminated in the KHL not too
46:59
long ago and then Lou larell signs him to a oneyear league
47:05
minimum contract now it came out that he left
47:11
the KHL for family reasons personal reasons and so I was I was thinking okay
47:18
maybe he's going to sit out of and not play for couple of months because maybe he has something to figure
47:24
out or maybe he just used personal reasons as an excuse to get out and like
47:30
I said who knows we're not there we're not in the situation but
47:36
also that was very soon after he left the KHL he gets that deal with the
47:44
Islanders Chris do you have any immediate thoughts on that I saw it when it broke um and I thought him going to
47:52
the Islanders was a solid signing for a team that struggling this season and so
47:59
far he hasn't looked too bad playing there from what I've seen I mean
48:04
obviously his numbers in Russia were amazing he was having a great season
48:10
over there and I think I part of me wonders if there was
48:16
conversations for him to come back like his agent just knew like hey teams are
48:22
seeing what you're doing over in Russia and they're interested in you and that's
48:27
like you said part of why he may have terminated to come
48:34
back yeah um the whole D'Angelo thing it
48:40
it's he's been a very outspoken player politics aside is I when the whole thing in uh
48:49
the Rangers and then the Flyers happened and he was terminated twice in the NHL is yep than happen but like
48:58
also we're seeing a guy who is still getting a chance because he's still a really good
49:03
player and there's a reason he's getting those chances I mean the Islanders wasted no time with him coming back he
49:10
played over 25 minutes in his first game back or the last game he played at least
49:15
well it was his first game back yeah I'm almost wanting to say that
49:20
maybe he needed a change of scenery very quickly he's a guy that's been around
49:25
the league a while and he's changed teams so many times that I mean granted two of those he had
49:33
different trips to Carolina and Carolina was his last spot but but that's that's with any NHL it's
49:41
like everyone thought Taylor Hall was going to be an Edmonton forever and then now he's on his seventh team so yeah
49:49
nobody saw stampco going to Nashville of all teams so that's that's the climate that
49:57
we're in in the NHL is more more guys are going to be moving around
50:03
and speaking of more guys who might be moving around could the Ottawa Senators
50:09
make a big move and acquire Elias
50:15
pson it's a very big topic and for the second last topic of the episode
50:21
is I can say I see it because look at the position that the senators are in
50:28
right now I can see them making a move like of
50:34
this magnitude at least because hey they're in a better position than
50:40
they were two seasons ago to win they have more confidence in them
50:47
from their owner their coach is just given them
50:53
life and as a team they have believ in the themselves and you can see it in the
50:58
way that they are playing they're going into games
51:04
against bigname teams like arguably stanle cup contending
51:10
teams and if they're not winning they're at least giving that team a run for their money but it's also worth noting
51:18
that the Senators they're sitting above 500 for the first time in a few years
51:24
yep maybe the first time since like 2017 18
51:31
so everything needs to be taken with a great assault
51:36
but I can see the Senators saying you know what maybe it's time that we go get
51:42
a big name player and this could be the year for them but
51:48
now you get the question of who do you move out that's where I think they hesitate I think that's where they get
51:54
hesitant I would also say that get hesitant mainly off of the salary cap
52:01
yeah so it's a situation
52:10
where it's a situation where it would be a it would benefit
52:17
them it would benefit them mainly because they're go they're in a playoff
52:22
position at the moment yeah but it would also benefit them as it would put less pressure on guys like
52:29
Brady kachuck to be that first line Center and be the driving factor of the team it would split up that talent that
52:37
the team has that's what I'm
52:42
thinking now when you take away guys from this
52:49
team who are you taking away it's like you got to take away a guy like Josh Norris Drake bson
52:57
somebody who is of caliber but then do you take two steps
53:03
forward or you take two steps back with this move right so talent wise yes but
53:09
the chemistry that they have going that's the question yeah that's that's what I'm
53:15
thinking and I don't want to sit here and speculate for too much I don't that's all I really have for that one
53:22
but last but not least is and I think it's fitting because we're heading into
53:27
the four nations right away but it came out yesterday that Alex petrangelo
53:34
withdrew from the four nations face dra Face Off Chris take it away yeah so he played
53:43
from what I saw it sounds like he did play last night and he's just focusing on something that he wants the two weeks
53:49
off without further injury and the question's already come out who's replacing him and automatically it
53:57
sounds like everybody's just saying it's true dowy and there's no question it's true dowy who I got confirmation to not
54:02
play tonight I thought I'd saw eight but I did not um but he is on the trip so he
54:08
will return for the Kings at least some point over the next couple games and it sounds like even with him coming back
54:13
it's a way that you know they want to get him ramped up um so it sounds like
54:19
he's a replacement for petrangelo but a lot of people aren't happy about it they want weager they want somebody like tanv
54:26
or Montour or buar so it's an interesting move not
54:32
surprised but my my one question for you Chris
54:40
is we see more players withdrawing from the four
54:45
nations I don't think so because a lot of players are excited about it I mean if they're dealing with something yeah
54:51
you might see that but I think you're going to see whoever's been named want to be a part of
54:57
well in the case of patrano is he said it was for injury seasons and for the
55:03
season but then yesterday I think it was yesterday is he was skating and playing
55:09
yeah so yeah he said it was an ailment and so he was pulling out because of an ailment
55:16
and so that tells me that I think he wants to play but I think he knows like obviously the season matters more he's
55:23
pulling out whereas I see a lot of players looking at this like if I'm fully healthy if I'm not dealing
55:28
with anything I'm not pulling out I don't care I want to represent my country and I want to be a part of
55:36
this and I could also see guys who are on Stanley Cup contending teams who
55:43
maybe just they're there to get some extra reps in for the year but they don't go full they don't go Full
55:54
Tilt there's always that injury
56:00
risk who knows maybe Team USA and we were talking about the goal tending thing
56:06
earlier maybe Team USA maybe ainger is the guy that they
56:11
came in because Huck said hey I'll go but I don't want to go pedal to medal
56:16
every single game right and maybe at the same time is for him
56:23
it's a badge of honor if he's on Team USA and they go and they win it all and maybe that's fuel for him to go
56:31
and win it all again yep so there's a lot to factor in when it
56:38
comes to guys withdrawing or potentially withdrawing and patrula withdrawing but
56:45
there's also a there's even more to factor in when it comes to guys who were injured and supposed to play because if
56:51
you look at markstrom he was supposed to be with Team Sweden same I think all was as
56:57
well and I believe so yeah Friday's 32 thoughts they were
57:03
joking around is uh does Joey dard have any Swedish
57:09
Heritage so that's I found that a little funny topic but
57:16
like it shows you how much these guys want to compete and they're they're at the level
57:23
that they are supposed to compete at for for a reason and maybe petrangelo was trying to play
57:31
through it and then finally he sat down with the team and the people for the
57:36
four nations for Team Canada and said you know what guys I don't think I can go I think this is going to physically
57:42
limit me if I play through this tournament and I have to go down in the
57:48
stretchering and another interesting thing that I saw and I know this is completely speculatory on the person who
57:55
posted this so I'm not going to out them is that Alex petrangelo could be playing
58:02
through something that might require surgery and we know how Vegas has been when it comes to shutting guys
58:08
down conveniently in time for the trade deadline yep like I'm not going to
58:15
expand on that thought because the person who posted it I know it's completely speculatory and I don't want
58:21
to speculate myself but it's just that little element
58:26
of you don't know the business side of things and I think we're at a point in I think
58:33
we're at a point in the season where you look at teams and guys are going to be
58:38
very serious and more and more cautious about their body and what they're trying
58:44
to do so I think that kind of wraps it up kind of nice for for myself Chris do
58:50
you have any more thoughts I don't except for the fact the Red Wings look like about to win their
58:56
third straight game so that's a good sign for them okay well I think that wraps it up
59:04
nicely for episode 23 Blockbusters are still here whatever
59:11
the title name is but uh we'll see you next week and hopefully it's Chris Jade and myself you have a good evening and
59:19
morning whatever you're listening to this and take care
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