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LLN: If Refs Could Turn Back Time
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Oct 30, 2024
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come on what a way to start a show yeah stick with us folks I swear it's going
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to get good with my Tina grown somebody is sharing their SC I know someone's sharing their screen I'm sharing my
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screen fine stop live intro hi this is m r public address
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announcer for your one at a time is the late night podcast your post game
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destination and now your starting lineup Rosco the fist syy [ __ ] and Dy brur on
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the Lea late night
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podcast okay we back we back hey this time our break coincides with the Leafs
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game break so uh sucks to suck we're on schedule this time uh and this time it's
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three of us look at that we got syy and beer and it's Rosco and Mr [ __ ] is
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rocking all some St Pat stuff which is why I want to start with talking about that man you have all the the St Pat
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swag going on E well my son's name is Patrick so
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I mean yeah it makes sense I get it uh I guess the first question I'll
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ask you is uh which one do you like more do you like that St Pat's one or this new Shamrock unlock your Shamrock St
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Pat's Jersey personally I like the original one the one I have on better um it's probably not going to
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stop me from buying one of those ones but I do like this one better cuz it's more accurate to the ones that were worn
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by the actual sa Pats fair enough sticking true to the history there uh s
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what do you think of these new ones I kind of like the new ones more because the Clover is protruding over the flat
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green line which I think they should just do without because if they just had the Clover it kind of resembles the Maple Leaf's logo in the middle and I
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think that would look so much better than the stupid Green Stripe Right Down the middle yeah I I have to agree I know
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they're trying to incorporate some more green into it but it just seems I don't know it's not the worst placement for it
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like if you were to put that stripe anywhere else I would think it's very out of place but I don't know if you're
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going to put it there I guess that's the only place I don't mind the Shamrock like I'm normally very eh on on St Pat's
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jerseys part of that is because the leafes seem to be absolutely garbage every time they wear them but that aside
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I I haven't normally been a fan of the jerseys these ones I like it's kind of
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in line with the uh the new All-Star jerseys where it's kind of that um
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jenzy uh what how do I put this like bubbly bigger
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loud kind of old it's almost like going back to to 60s 7s kind of styles like
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yeah almost almost like flower power type uh Deco um yeah I don't know I like
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it I wouldn't mind if they went back to an actual green one we've had the white iter now for that' be fun this is like
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eight years rights early late 90s early thousands
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they had a dark green one that was just awesome and the the Leafs wore it with brown pants and I remember that it was
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awesome that's pretty old school yeah I I think this is definitely
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like a new modern take on the St Pats and I I think that's like if you're going to go that go all in on that and
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maybe next time go for like historic look with the brown pants and everything but for what they're going for I think
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this works I hate that they have to throw the milk thing on there for this even for this ad because like look the
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ones you're buying don't have that on it so why can't they model the ones that you're buying like is it a rule that if these
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guys are wearing the Jersey it has to have milk on it there it's probably somewhere in the
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contract with the sponsorship right like the whole reason you're paying that money to put your name on that Jersey is
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because because Austin Matthews and Mitch Marner are going to be wearing it oh they want $300 for
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these that's pretty much going raid anymore for a jersey with numbers holy
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moly a youth one is $200 yeah here's the I'm currently in
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the process of trying to win tickets for the game on Saturday because Patrick's been bugging me to go to a game and
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considering it's a St Patrick's Day game it would kind of be fitting for it to be his first game
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have a lot of stuff here yeah that would be really cool for his first one this is pretty sick the Marley's
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same four no he's seven he'll be eight in August oh my bad so we have a nephew too
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like we're considering taking him to the 67's game he's just turning six and like we think that's a great first experience
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for him it's not too much like 18,000 for a sense or may know 14,000 whatever
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but uh yeah looking forward to taking him to his first game yeah took Patrick to his first live
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game um when was it o end of September early October to a London nights game
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and he just absolutely loved it really he yeah just had a riot and then we've
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been to a couple Branford Bulldogs games since then so oh it's so good to hear
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definitely getting a lot more into hockey and wanting to actually watch it not just asking to stay up so he can
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play video games our move too is to take him to an afternoon game so if we have to leave in the second or third period
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it's not so big deal no exactly smart smart yeah and the good thing about
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being in Ottawa is we get a lot of those afternoon games eh hey second tier
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baby okay so uh moving on to the Leafs Leafs late night where it's never too
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late for the Leafs presented by inside the rink so um you know how do I put this I had a
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whole thing I wanted to had a whole smart anecdote to like start this off
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here we say a lot of the time with this team uh two periods does not win a hockey game uh but tonight they proof
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the two period sometimes does win a hockey game as long as you make them two really good ones and you try to make the
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middle one not that bad so that's that's my takeaway from
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tonight sometimes 40 minutes is enough well you like to see
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what they did because historically the Leafs have been one of those teams that if they get a break or anything like
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that they'll they'll throw a stinker or they'll not show up on time like how many times has that been an accusation
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of the Leafs that they didn't show up on time they didn't show up ready to play and they're fighting you know from
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behind all night that wasn't the case tonight they came out ready to play they attacked it They Carried the pace pretty
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much the entire game yeah I mean even in the the second they weren't playing so hot uh they were
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still at least playing well defensively they just kind of thought they could get away with turtling for the rest of the
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game and uh and kind of oh well I mean we basically scored four in the first period these guys suck we're that much
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better than them let's just go for a skate for the rest of the night we've earned it and you know come on guys 20
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minutes is definitely not enough to win a game that's just kind of what it seemed like is they they did at least a
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good enough job not to completely blow the uh the lead but it was it was definitely I think a little more than
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they should have let off the gas Vibe you got from it I mean what do you
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think I mean I feel especially with Mitch Martin route the cascading effect that they have on the offensive line
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right now is a lot to get used to and I thought there was a lot of guys who were going pretty good they had their
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chances I don't feel like they really let up too much in this game to be quite honest with you not to mention that
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Phillies a team who's just on the Wild Card cusp right now like they're playing for their playoff lives right
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now was fair I mean I did like doy and berzi I think they had a great game
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again I mean these guys have been asking forever like I didn't think again we're halfway through March I was saying you
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know unless berus is going to turn it on for March April May um we'll see I guess
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and here we are he turns it on for March at least so par front of the net for the rest of the year just let Matthews Banks
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off him oh my God even though that one that didn't count that tip was disgusting I was just going to say that
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tip that wasn't allowed like good like so good and what about like the fact that
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Matthews chose pass there and with the absolutely disgusting feet on that first one to bruzi like you know the goal
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always going to be ready he knows he's got the hands to actually do that despite what he's shown us this year like in tight but in the air he could
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really tip a puck did you see the flex on that stick
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blade when they slowed it down with the above head angle on the tipin for first
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goal like if if that was all his strength just to keep that straight with how much that blade Flex maybe he should
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tape it a little bit going to say that comes down to the tape buddy he's got like two inches of
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tape on his stick yeah one one little piece on the top but no I think look they played a
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really great first period I just think they got a little comfortable in the second and then they decided [ __ ] it let's just Ram these guys in for the
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third and it's nice to see I think every now and then you got to take advantage of the fact that you're you know feeling
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it offensively and just instead of sitting on a 3-1 lead run away with it when you can because you don't get to
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that often you know who you can also thank for that is samsonov he made some really big saves and really key OPP like
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opportunities for the Flyers since coming back he's what 12 and 2 13 and two this guy has been completely unreal
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his confidence is through the roof he's everything that he wasn't before he got set
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down and it like it's what you want to see right like that we talked about when
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he was first waved cuz like he didn't really get sent
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down he didn't actually go down to the Marley he just stayed with the Leafs and worked with the staff yeah exactly um
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but we talked about it that this is it's a weird situation and a weird scenario
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that many teams aside from the Leafs probably couldn't do because they wouldn't be able to afford to pay to
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keep him around to be able to to find himself and good on the team for being able to do that and for wanting to do
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that and actually trying to get him to
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to to better himself and to salvage his season yeah and like all the credit go
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sorry go ahead oh no sorry I I definitely made it seem like I was done there um
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like for for the team going through that with the guy who was your like your deao
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number one last year like that's just another thing to add to the list of something that can Galvanize you going
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into the playoffs as a team right yeah 100% And like not to mention he's been hearing that Joseph wall is the next
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coming all year for how long have it's been and he's just been up playing him and he's I don't know if he's not paying
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attention to it or he's just Rising above it like that hasn't affect him whatsoever and that's I find all the more
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impressive yeah it's great I just I wish that they'd taken the same care in
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trying to rehab wall when he came back instead of what seems like a rush to get him back out there and then as soon as
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he wasn't great they went okay never mind and they put Sammy back in like I'm I'm glad sami's playing well but now
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we're at a point where we don't know we don't have any confidence in our backups like Jones wasn't playing great last
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time we played him wall wasn't playing great last time we played him I feel like played good hockey but like no
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one's played consecutive games until Tammy just did tonight so they've been giving each guy a chance and I feel like
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in practice they've been talking to them like both guys I think confidence are pretty high right now I don't I'm not sure if I agree with
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that fair enough I just I I feel like a lot of the chatter online was that you know Wall's cooked okay I'm done with
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this he's letting in bad goals like rushed him back too early so crazy I
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just that's what everybody always says with the Leafs anytime anything just looks remotely human oh that's it
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everything's done the team's trash like get rid of everybody you get Whiplash being the least fan online 100% but it
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it is still you know everybody was putting faith in once Wall comes back we're going to be set with you know
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Sammy and wall it's going to be fantastic we're got the tandem together finally healthy and then he came back
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and everybody just kind of felt like oh maybe it's not as hype as we have been
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talking about it while he's been hurt but I think people just get their expectations up but sami's playing
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unreal like Wall's been playing pretty good too like granted he hasn't had that many opportunities but given his chance
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I think he's going to play great I think we're we're in a great position right now goal tending wise better than we have been in a very long time I would
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agree okay um so there's just a few little things that need to be worked out
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uh which is some injuries unfortunately we've still got Mar down and uh oh my
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God yarn croak shoulder obliterated tonight keep set up for a while yeah
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dude's played what like five games maybe got back I hate this me too he's a
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good playoff guy too like he's someone you wanted the lineup at that point he was somebody I almost forgot about he'd
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been missing so much time this year and you know finally he's back and he was looking great damn it this sucks he went
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down so hard like that it's not often that when they show a replay I actually like have to look away because I can't
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watch somebody's like I for me it's knowing the months of rehab or at least
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weeks of how long and like you know years that this is going to hurt afterwards like I just can't watch that
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happen like his body motion like it looked like he was doing the hula hoop or something like he was just riding a
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little bit so you know he was definitely in some pain CU that guy is Pretty Tough yeah [ __ ] so he's he's definitely done
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for an extended period of time hopefully back for playoffs but who knows there's
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an opportunity for a guy like Robertson to come back in right y That's what I was going to get to it definitely opens
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up the spot but uh you know we're we're switching up for somebody with with less
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time this year and less experience in the playoffs and a different Dynamic too like he doesn't play a hard game like C
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can yeah but that being said there hasn't been a single game that I've seen
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Robertson play this year that I've been like okay you know needs to get off the ice like the amount of time that he gets
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played cuz ke never wants to play him he actually plays great and he's noticeable and he he drives he is effective at
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driving the play if he's playing hard sorry if he's playing hard minutes too like he's not getting pushed off the
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puck either like he's not exceptionally soft on the puck or anything uh this might be a good thing
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who knows and I think there's a lot less pressure on him now that a lot of the other depth pieces and new pickups are
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doing better like at the beginning of the season when nobody was scoring there was a lot of focus on okay well
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Robertson you've been around the longest you need to put it together or bust now that you know DOI berzi and even Holberg
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McMahon like all these guys are playing well it kind of takes some pressure off of just him to perform so maybe uh maybe
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it'll be good for him homberger was playing great tonight too yeah I did yeah oh man that release
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weird bounce like this was one of those nights the Leafs a lot of the time are not uh lucky with Puck bounces this
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seemed like one of those times where like anything they threw in the right spot was going in and it very rarely
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feels like that with the leaves and like this one where it went off of uh I think it was a rebound that went up through
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somebody skates and right to Holberg and he buries it like even to your point like nine out of tenen times this year
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they've they'd hit the post on that or something but maybe six out of 10 times they try to make a fancy pass there instead of they're just putting pucks
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towards the net and they're getting traff in front and good things have been happening because of it fair enough oh
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to that we never talked about the fact that uh Marner basically injured himself from missing a wide open
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net and then completing a ridiculous wraparound that turned into a barrel roll and landing on his own leg like I'm
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sorry there are ways that you could hurt yourself in hockey I have never seen that like somebody that replay was rough
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having literally a full wideopen net and going uh actually no I should Oh I
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thought too long I don't know what I should do I'm just going to go for a wrap around oh wait I'm not going to do that I'm gonna pull back and go for the
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shot oh I don't have that either I don't have my footing and no like I this dude
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is famous for like holding the puck too long and making decisions like 0 five
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seconds too late like we talked about he's able to recover it a lot of the time this one holy [ __ ] to be able to
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blow your own leg out like this oh most Leaf thing
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ever yeah well thankfully he did it when he did and should have plenty of time to
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get back in oh I hope so annoying yeah don't rush him back like
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there's no point we're not we're probably not going to get second place and we're not going to get fourth place so we're right where we are right now
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give them time third place leaves as long always yay uh yeah I think just let
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him sit let him get better let's pull some I don't know they should if this had happened a week earlier pull some
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caption anig but say oh no marner's out to the playoffs
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what are we going to do freeze up a lot of money just saying
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uh other thing that came up tonight that a lot of people wanted us to uh talk about is the hand pass hand pass so um
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this has been a strange Leaf topic going all the way back to that Morgan Riley incident with Clayton Keller I
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think it was anyway hand passes are silly they always make people go why is this a
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rule I mean this one was pretty cut and dry like Matthews poked it out with his
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hand to bruzi which led to the play that's set up the goal yeah but it
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wasn't like within the you know the half a second or two seconds before the goal
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like it was enough before it that it makes people go okay like is this really where we want this implemented and I
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think that's what it comes down to it's not like what the rule is it's the
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spirit of it you know like what are we actually trying to avoid happen and is
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this it well basically it is
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because the the whole and and you got to think of the wording right hang on a sec
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sorry oh um the the the wording of a missed
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stoppage of play right and a hand pass anywhere but the defensive zone is a stoppage of play
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same as a high stick same as offside whatever yeah and they wanted to get to
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a point where you couldn't look at a play and even if it's
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not Direct directly preceding it you couldn't look at a play and be like oh no there should have been a blown
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whistle there and that should have stopped the place this goal shouldn't have counted that being said with what
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you're saying there has been times where it's been like two three four minutes after the
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fact well and that's the point like is it if the the whole Spirit of it is you
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don't want a hand pass to create like somebody passes the puck with their hand to the guy who shoots it in like a very
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obvious like Al Matt du shaine's off side like it's got to be so obvious that's like how did we miss that like I
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feel like that's what most of these rules are in place for is so you can go back and say you know those times when
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everybody's up in arms like this needs to be changed you have the ability to this seems a little crazy to me because
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like yeah it's a missed stoppage and play but you missed it keyword missed
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like it wasn't blown down the play continued on everybody in the game went on as though it didn't happen if it has
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to be flagged down by a video coach after the goal is scored like literally no one playing cares that this happened
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why is this an overturned goal we have an offside challenge I don't know if there's a high like or a hand pass
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challenge right like if we're starting to do this are we going to challenge every little play like like he said but
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I think in spirit of the rule and like to what beer said if it's going off your hand if it's a last contact from the
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puck until stick then that's the rule but
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yeah like I agree with Johnny like we can't be challenging every little thing like this yeah like there's so many
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things where you know if a penalty is missed we don't go back and say oh well the penalty should have been called there so we're going to back start like
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going back for trippings or like hookings or anything like that because that's a soy soap like it just seems
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like we're going back in time because there was a mistake made by somebody by officials that absolutely cannot make
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any mistakes unless human element that's why we have human exactly exactly thank
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you so I understand that like it was called as per the rules and this is how it is always called but that's that's
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kind of beside the point it's like Elliot Freedman made a comment I couldn't find it I wanted to pull the uh
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the actual quote up but I remember on 32 thoughts I think it was either before this season or last season but he said
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that the NHL was looking to have less goals called back like they want more
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goals to happen and less things to interfere with goals being scored and I have yet to see that happen like there's
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been way too many things called back for reasons that are or just liit the ones you can do I get the offside one if
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that's what you want to do then keep it at that the rest tough [ __ ] if it's called on the ice that's what it is go
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tender interference aside was this a coach's challenge or did the refs go back and coach's challenge yeah that's
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that's that's their lies the problem right like see that's that's what I have a problem with is like if we're just
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challenging the fact that a whistle should have been blown at some point that would have changed when this goal
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had been scored like what are we doing or unless you want to do like what the NBA does in the last two minutes it's an
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automatic review for stuff like this but other than that it shouldn't it shouldn't be up for debate yeah like
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first period of a game for a team that's already down like that I don't know I get that it's kind of the difference
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between them being you know writing off the rest of the game essentially or not but yeah come on I don't know that's my
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piece on that and that's that's cuz uh Scott in our Discord asked about it um and it
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took me a while to come up with how I felt about it because like you guys said it is it is how it's called I
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just I don't know I don't like it but if you called it on the ice it would have been fine it's just the review like the
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coaches review that's where it gets a little hazy yeah it exactly if it had been called in the moment it's it's the
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call as the rule is but if it's a missed stoppage like come on we're not don't don't talk to me about
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that uh we have a lot of questions tonight do we want to go to those uh and see if we
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get anywhere from that sure sure uh Misadventures classic kyes opinion on
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the new St Pats Jersey well we gave it to you thanks for asking uh Ken 27
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killaconda at kilgor Ken does Willie have two giveaways for each goal it
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seems worse to me is there a stat yeah I I was praising his uh
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penalty killing maybe not as penalty killing but just the the ability to have him as a little offensive weapon tonight
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was not that on the the penalty kill for him he wasn't great there gave up that that one wied progress yeah look he's
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better defensively this season than he was he's been scoring more this season than he was I think he
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earned most of the contract he was signed to so look I think this guy's
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only going to get better defensively like we've seen with Matthews the more he works on it the more he's comfortable with if you're not in these type of
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games like where are you gonna use them like this is where it's gonna get better exactly when you lose Marner like who's
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the next up he's he has to be able to take those those spots so uh yeah uh
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Canada delorian who's playing with Matthews and Marner game one [ __ ] I'll let you take
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this one first well it's at this point you're probably looking at
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um Mitch and Bert yeah I was gonna say it's probably
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berzi but Sy what do you think I mean yeah if you're betting berzi is probably
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your odds on favorite n it's got to be second right there
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right a really good third line very right about that too you know what would have been interesting if we had a little
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more faith than a guy named Robertson this year and put him in up on that lineup I would to see what he could have
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done for a l in another timeline he's there you know like in another world
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where a couple things don't happen and a couple things happen differently he's right there but it's just wasn't in the
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cards for this kid yeah and for the record neander at
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37 giveaways this year okay so I mean almost as many goals what does
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he have 35 goals he's at 35 goals yeah okay well not every give
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so let's 61 takeaways 37 giveaways how many giveaways does Matthews have versus
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goals how many giveaways have led to a goal let's let's be real here for a second too I I don't know if Edge would
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show that I might have to dig into that a little deeper yeah I'm just trying to nhl.com
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apparently doesn't show giveaways I had to go to money Puck oh what a surprise nhl.com doesn't show something negative
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yeah you got to think I guess BT's going to play on that Top Line right yeah I assume so I mean it it's crazy
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that if you'd asked me two months ago I'd probably say n but um now it's kind
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of almost no question it's going to be brusi with how he's been playing if he Parks himself in front and like Mar is
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digging pucks up to Matthews and Matthews is shooting pucks at the net and he uses right in front that's that's
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a perfect Trio yeah uh we have a question here
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from a very special birthday boy Mikey [Music] Happy Birthday Mikey uh if the core five
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was candies chocolates chewies sour anything which candies would they be so
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chocolate gummies uh
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sour what else are we saying like pretzels and chips and then
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like um what's another thing ice pretty maybe
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sure okay so who's who what's what are we get mat we think too much with his
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questions I know um neander is the uh the sour candy for
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sure yeah because at first it's going to hit you a little bit hard but eventually it's it's nice yeah um I would say
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Marner is probably the um the
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chewy like got like Swedish Berry kind of candy sweet but really good Matthews is
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chocolate because he's sexy and everything he does is just so elegant Matthews has to be like a Reese cup or
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something something that's guaranteed to like be amazing it hits every time right crowd pleaser yeah yeah do is like what
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were those old ones like Gob Stoppers or something that was crazy tough and hard on the outside and then super sweet on
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the inside yeah it's like doy just it's filled with cocaine instead of sugar as
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soon as you get to it you're just gone of or 100 yeah uh tavaras I would say is
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like chips and pretzels you know just yeah PL classic yeah plane chips
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wrong with them yeah you can put them out at any party it's like H you know what this works
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yeah they're gonna keep working beri is a couple M&M's that you found in the backseat of your car when
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you're cing an Eminem Skittle here and there you never know what you're going to get when you put them in your
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m one of them's an unmarked pill yeah yeah yeah yeah there might be an ecstasy
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pill in there too yeah um and then Morgan Riley what are we give to him he's like a Twizzler it's not not
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amazing not horrible but you know comforting yeah you can you can go to it
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been around you know every now and then you're like oh you know what I I go for the nibs
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they're pretty good yeah yeah I had some nibs when I saw Dune to the other day nib nibs are banging did you get one of
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the popcorn buckets I wanted one so bad and they weren't they didn't have them and I was like what is all this for what
30:39
are we doing here if I if I can't get the worm popcorn bucket what has all of
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this been about if you can't order Popcorn with a sex toy on top like why did I watch five and a half hours of
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this dumb Space Opera today cuz I hadn't seen the first one until that morning I watched that much time I'd watched Star
30:59
Wars oh dude I felt like I watched 6 hours of phantom menace I swear to
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God anyway um was this Leaf's win or was
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this the Leaf's birthday present for Mikey D from Ryan Willie hell yeah yeah of course it was they they knew they
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heard all of us just preing into the blue ethos for he never really had to
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worry about it he was just enjoying it the whole time like how often does that happen with Leaf games
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yeah Matthew's getting a 40 even strength goals for the second season [ __ ] gross or for the second
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season in his career sorry leushin got hurt but came back
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twice and then got hurt again and then got hurt again this guy's Warrior okay let's talk about this for a split second
31:46
everyone's [ __ ] on this pickup but I feel this guy's skill set is a little bit better than what he was here the
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first time and and he proved on that last play like he's willing to take the hit to sacrifice to make a play this is
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game what there's like 16 games left this is not the playoffs he's still making this type of play that's sending
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a clear message to everybody in this room that this is what it takes to win and I'm so glad we have on our team
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right now yeah it's funny he feels like one of those players that you know when the Leafs turned somebody into a more
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serviceable NHL player than they were when they got them and then we just let them run off into the league somewhere else this is one of the only times where
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we've gotten one back within like they're still being in that that upswing
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so so like the Leafs gave him a higher uh or what's the word an increased role
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with playing with Morgan Riley the first time he was here and then they they ship him out and uh so he's used to playing
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those bigger minutes gets known for that he plays more and more gets more responsibility and now he's back here
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again like you said he's he's better than he was last time I'm just hoping that he's not leaving every game every
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time he gets hit because he's so banged up save it a little bit for the playoffs but like you can tell when he goes to
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the bench like he's hanging down he's just you know recouping a little bit but like every guy goes he gives him a pat
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like it what he's doing means a lot to this team yeah and he's had a couple nice plays uh offensively too I mean
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there was the one last game I mentioned where he uh he was diving to save one at the line to keep a Play Alive that ended
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up in a goal so you know he's he's making it work like he's not he's not
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like he's not the partner for Riley that we need longterm but he's at least
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a experienced defenseman that's familiar with the team that's playing well that can throw hit yeah exactly responsible
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so no and you guys really said it all there like we didn't have to give up a
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ton for him he's not like the allstar that everybody wanted but at the same time he's he's not Justin so we can plug
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him into the lineup and not be afraid every time he's out on the ice how is Hy
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doing yeah I don't care he's not on the leafes yeah I could care less what that guy made oh like leafers games traveled
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on I really don't give two shits about the guy whatsoever I'm just interested you know
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for him because just because people were defending him so much I just want to see
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like okay prove it to me like what has he been doing when was his last game
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even because it looks like he's only played he's only played 37 games this year is he was very much on the Block at
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the end of the year and no one took him no Detroit Detroit had a whole whack
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of healthy Defenders to start the season so they were healthy scratching guys just alternating yeah like you play one
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sit One play one sit One play two sit two type thing got he didn't play through all of
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February so he he might have picked up an injury anyway he's only got five assists
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on the year and uh is a what is that a
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minus he's a freshing player he'll have a great penalty kill and then he'll just make this bonehead decision that will
35:19
inevitably lead to a goal so if he's doing almost one of those per game you you can't have that on your
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backline yeah anyway just checking in on where are they now uh question from TR living
35:34
the best life tml fan and Van Marty asks what's your favorite
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color Saturday it's going to be green I to to over overthink the
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question I mean it's been purple it yeah
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purple what shade like a nice dark
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purple like a royal like a Lakers purple yeah Lakers
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purple whatever Jimmy Hendricks is [ __ ] singing about Purple Haze great purple yeah nice I uh I like blue I like
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dark blue before I don't know I guess I just grew up around my dad having Leaf stuff around just gotten lots of blue
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but uh lately I've been getting into green as for my own wardrobe I like greens lately really nice yeah it's hard
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to pull off not when you're a redhe head baby this is true you're constantly
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Christmas colors with green one of the few things I can do I can't wear red or
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yellow or orange but I can wear green the ni Brown bad
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either always like a dark blue like a leaf blue um um as a kid I hated orange
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for some reason I don't know why like I could I despise Orange um I'm over that
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MTH watch um lately I love like lime green
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everything like the the brighter more in your face green the better like green
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screen color even more vibrant oh like I I found a shirt when
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we were up at the cottage last year that it almost hurts your eyes to wear it oh buddy and I loved it and it actually
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looked great but anything I have that's a lighter color color typically ends up getting some sort of stain I am a
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mechanic so I oil and grease oozes out of my skin as you let us know in our
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group chat Peter made the big decision of making a tan hat he was quite
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concerned about it I I couldn't I I saw it at lids and I
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liked it and I didn't get it because the color and then I kicked myself in the ass for three months so I had to go find one online
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somewhere I need to get a new leaves hat and I need you guys to help me one because I dug one out and it is so gross
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and yellow from all the years I've worn it and my other one is too small so I've watched this one several times and it
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still has a unique stink that is hard to describe but my girlfriend absolutely hates it and I don't want to disappoint
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her anymore so if yeah same with Johnny if you can pinpoint us to a nice new hat let's do that cuz I was was it Lids no
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it was like some sports like memorabilia store that's in the mall across the street for me I was looking around and
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they only had two Styles they always only have two and I know there's so many out there but
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there's so many shitty ones too so this can get into a bigger conversation and I love how we get into the some of the
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most random [ __ ] on our our episodes um for at least 10 years I've complained
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that the leafes never have any good hats like they really don't they don't like if all like the major sports themes
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especially their hats are very much lagging like my my previous go-to hang on a sec
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here dramatic effect people who can't see this yeah this is great for people that
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are just listening has Ste visual sorry it's the winter Winter Classic one from
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14 oh nice that's a great one because that looks like it's from like the early 1900s right like like and that was like
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the best hat I had one was wearing it on honeymoon lost it down in Mexico and had
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to Source out another one yeah absolutely sick hat great hat but yeah I I I've never been happy
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with Toronto hat so then that's why I was kicking myself that I didn't buy the one I've got on when I first saw it
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because you don't see something like that too often with the leaves how it's like a fancy nice like letters for the
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name right no cuz like charal is a pretty long name to put on the front of a hat but if you have it done Tastefully
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just the right fent size it really works yeah here's a quick look see see like I
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don't mind this for the same reason it's kind of that that's logo like I think
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all their logo hats are not too bad cuz you can't go too too wrong with them but what the hell is
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this what is this that's what Matthews is wearing post game I don't hate it I kind of like it
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actually they have it in this too authentic Pro training camp hat oh
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Johnny they're on sale it's [Music] their actual like they got these for
40:37
training camp mhm they typically do that every year they'll have a hat they come out with
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for training camp hat they come with for playoffs this is so ugly this a retina one the color what is the shade of blue
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this is the other thing is they can't decide on what shade of blue they use if they just stuck with it like if he like
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look at any New York Yankees hat it's always the same shade like it's always the same I'm looking at like this is
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different from this is different from all of these all of them what's that black and signatured one that's terrible
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yeah this is some Mitchell L Ness one I don't know it's horrible I don't mind this like loud t
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one but I'm not look yeah I don't and what is this with the splash yeah what
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are we doing these are and this stripe is horrible what is this placement of the logo oh my Lord and look at this
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this looks like it was made at like your local sh first time first day employee
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yeah you asked them to just type Toronto mels on the front of a hat you bought from Giant Tiger like what I'm not
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spending yeah we can do that no they can't what are dude you've opened a can of worms I didn't realize this looks
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like it's out of a beer case that says Molson on it we're going deep down this Rabbit Hole now bro these hats are
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terrible I'm telling you oh the toque is great this thing's sick the All Star
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yeah yeah the one on the down left too he had drunk in that one wait till you get to the tropical one I don't mind
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this you're familiar with this are you oh my God it's Rosco washed that's so funny I want
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this it's got the the string on it I'm actually I want this
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one I I don't like it but it's it's it's got my name on this is hideous with the
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Palm leaves that's the tropical one I was talking about yeah line on the beak is
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terrible what the f hate oh my God this looks like they're trying to do the
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Raptor's like font I don't yeah who designs these when you're snow birding
42:52
in like Florida or Hawaii you wear that one oh I don't I don't mind the corduroy
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one these are so blue white and black one there is brutal yeah this is
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horrible it looks like it's music notes on like a and what's this like it looks like a
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shoelace yeah yeah that thing on the top top of the beak is so terrible does it
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say leafy yeah it does
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leafy I think it's supposed to be a curse of s that'ss
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no are you I think it is but it looks like leafy and no that someone printed
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that and they let that go into production this is crazy and if you're just listening to this go to
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Fanatics like and just go to the the Maple Leafs hats section like these it is absolutely appalling how bad this is
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not like a commentary on Fanatics who are absolutely the worst [ __ ] company in the whole world but yeah what is this
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tooth I'm sorry Mitchell and NES you got some really nice and really ugly designs
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on some of these These are crazy what come on what
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is this we're sorry for deep diving this this far yeah okay I'm done this is I
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got to pull rabit but this is this is the point this is why we're asking for
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your help um friends don't let friends Buy Ugly leafes gear uh we spent 10
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minutes on like crowdsourcing a hat for me and you no it was like
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three that's a good option uh so we'll show you in the comments later okay so I guess let's
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make let's give a point to this whole discussion the the whole like we've been
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waiting for the P pwhl to launch you know this jerseys and the the logos and
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everything because everyone wants branding everyone wants to spend money and support the team this needs to be tightened up like there
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needs to be more oversight by somebody on gear that is being put out under this
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Leafs brand on fanatic's website which is now the official where you get all your [ __ ] like they got to have some
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sort of cohesive style and not just throw out like Walmart level stuff that like literally I can go Walmart for
45:20
$5.99 oh man yeah want to Rabbit Hole but like at least the NHL stuff is not
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nearly like not even half as bad as the at least you're not when there's a fight on the ice you don't see the guy's dick
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and balls swinging back and forth in his [ __ ] pants like exactly or you can't
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on the back of the Jersey yeah it's just speaking of Nam
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jerseys I wish there was more oversight and like management to this side
45:49
speaking of jerseys go ahead speaking of names on jerseys good on Molson you see what they did for the pwl hell yes names
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on the bottom yeah so they they the whole part of like the whole campaign is that for
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years the the players names have been hidden by their hair if they have long hair in their ponytail yeah so
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commercial they had for it yeah yeah the advertising will hide our name so you can see theirs right like good on them
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that's such a such a clever clever marketing campaign and and it it works it works for like both the
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league and like the company too right like and like a little furthermore every time I go out to like a bar or like a a
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restaurant they're always playing pwl games it's all that's going on like
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they're having such a good inaugural year it's insane did you hear about um Debbie
46:42
Harrison the Super Fan who was asking for uh she said like Crayola needs a new color pwhl purple and Crayola Canada put
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out uh Power Play Purple nice they're like it's our it's our unofficial pwhl color so
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what do you think do they do they come up all with new like logos and everything for next year or is
47:03
this working on that yeah that with with how rushed
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everything was because realistically they said they were doing this and like June and July yeah like so the fact that
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they started the league in January is mindboggling yeah that they pulled it together in itself is unreal the fact
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that they're announcing rules like midseason yeah that like that being said
47:28
though I really think they should have paid some respect and and homage to some
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of the teams that were successful like the Boston Pride for instance that area
47:40
of Boston the black and gold colors like everybody that's like that is hockey in
47:47
the Boston area and the pride had the best attendance records they were a great team like you could have kept with
47:53
that the Toronto 6 people seem to love that name in the area the jerseys were in good you know they were a successful
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team you could have kept that so I don't think you had to completely start new with everybody but I think you did
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because if you're starting this whole new league you want to give everybody the same chance give them one year to figure out what they're going to do for
48:13
this and just uniformly come out as the same I think if you had a couple teams with logos and some with not that would
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have been a bigger issue than than what we're doing with right now well and not
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to diminish the other leagues have come before this one but like the talk of the pwhl has been like finally we have a
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cohesive women's professional League like I feel like if you were carrying
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over the names from those other leagues it would almost like people would easier brush it off as still something that
48:43
they knew existed that they weren't already paying attention to they feel like they're behind on I feel like when you start from scratch everybody feels
48:49
like they're starting from square one together fans and players alike so you get to you know start cheering for
48:55
something from the from Ground Zero instead of like having you know maybe
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fans coming over from a team from the past or like you know like you said the Boston Pride or Toronto 6 like if all of
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their fans come over it might be a little hard for people in Toronto already to feel like they can get involved with the team because it's kind
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of gatekeeping like oh you weren't here from the beginning like we're here from the old time like even Minnesota too
49:18
like they don't have that much history compared to all the other original 16 te so like what are they going to do
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really yeah I think just even the playing field and and make everybody feel like it's it's their league now
49:29
from from the start but yeah I I'm interested to see how The Branding and
49:34
everything goes because they've done a better job than the NHL of being Uh current with everything and and taking
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risks and you know not being tied down by you know the the Hundred Years of of
49:47
history and and rules and stuff so I'm hoping that means that we see some jerseys closer to like those fun ones
49:55
that you shared from some of the the junior leagues where you know there's there's less strict rules on what the
50:01
jerseys can look like like this is their chance to set the Precedence and have their history to be made from what the
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like what this decision comes from so right it's it's yeah it's a pretty big decision right like how much can you do
50:14
the Leafs or the Philadelphia Flyers jerseys versus like you know starting from square one with this is a whole new
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pwl Toronto yeah y I'm I'm looking forward to it I'm
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going to buy some stuff I uh again would love like here's the just to bring it back to what I was talking about before
50:31
with the gear we've seen so many artists like you know Joey Ferg puts out
50:36
fantastic leafes gear shout out like every time something happens in like the fact that every time
50:44
something happens meme wise I guess you could say like anytime there's a current going on with the team he's quick to put
50:50
something out and I think that's important and the team should be doing something like that he's filling a hole that the team is is lacking on right
50:56
like if you know they were jumping on the everything that happened with the team as it happens that the fans are are
51:03
tuned into and putting out merch that coincides with it they would make a killing but they don't they just put out
51:08
this you know copy and base garbage um like this this Bud Jersey I have with the Matthew stuff from Casey Bannerman
51:15
like when the um Vancouver connects do their their indigenous and pride and all
51:21
their different jerseys um they have different artists designed them like like there's so many people there that
51:27
are doing better work than the people that these teams are actually not even the teams are Hing for these decisions
51:34
right like exactly like who is doing this like who is okaying all of these and sending it out on the Fanatics
51:39
website like how much oversight does the NHL actually have over this like are they just signing it off to these guys
51:44
did they realize how much it was going to diminish their brand value by you know having Fanatics just put all like
51:51
there's like 60 different hats from the Leafs on their site like this is insane
52:01
annoyed and not a single like you know thing about boria salming that you can buy and not a single you know fun
52:08
William neander shirt you can get like there's it's just [ __ ] J [ __ ] shirt like where is this I know but yeah I
52:16
just I think it's crazy that they they don't have any fun with it it's just all lame
52:23
designs when I see that I think that's the key word there is they don't really have fun with it like there's there's
52:31
been too much of the old white man running everything and they're so afraid of kids
52:39
or the younger Generations I don't you don't even have to really say kids getting involved in and ruining their
52:45
idea of the sport and it's like the game's not around for the 50 60 year
52:52
olds anymore like that's not where it's going I I love the history of the sport
52:57
and I respect it as much if not more than anybody I've ever met but there's a
53:03
reason those happen in the past and players don't play like that anymore because we're evolving we
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don't like you can respect what happened before and still look forward to what's going to happen and like be a part of
53:15
that movement yeah look nextg Knight is a good sentiment but it has to be more
53:21
than like one night every four months you know like they got to try to incorporate more things to bring in a
53:27
younger crowd they got to pay more attention to the branding and the the advertisements and I know look if you've
53:33
been a fan of the show for a while I probably care more and I'm more interested in the business of the sport
53:40
and the broadcasting and everything than I am of the actual product on the ice and I apologize I get really into these
53:45
kinds of things we balance each other out that's exactly it you know so that's
53:51
that's my two cents and what I want why the have something like great on their hands they have this unique original
53:57
branding opportunity that they can all do for themselves right now so yeah it's
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super interesting to see what they're going to do yep hundo um anything else we're just
54:08
under an hour here what are we thinking for the lease on the rest of the way out of the
54:13
Season what is the schedule like what are we Hing for [Music]
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here um Health yeah that's the thing cuz we're not really we're probably not going to
54:24
get second place and we're not going to get fourth place so Jesus
54:29
Christal please yeah that's that's pretty much all you can really ask for right now two
54:36
games against the canes easy line forward it's pretty nasty you got a couple games against the Panthers a
54:42
couple games against the lightning the Red Wings against the Flyers yeah yeah a couple three three
54:49
games against the Devils our scheduling is very weird this year last two games are lightning and
54:56
Panthers which I do kind of like because it's it means that they're going to
55:01
finish the year in playoff mode instead of I [ __ ] seen her play the
55:07
Marley's like yeah you'd rather take like the coyotes in the last game of the season than the lightning oh I'd rather
55:14
not play like any of my [ __ ] top tier players and just go into the play but the lightning aren't e either right but
55:21
I think it gives you a chance uh I don't know I guess if they don't don't then it
55:26
doesn't matter but if both guys playing Boston right so let's just
55:32
not get anybody hurt last two games are going to if you're not ready by then you're not
55:37
going to be ready so mys East it's all east teams and
55:44
they've been [ __ ] against the East this year that's what worries me realistically we're not we're not
55:50
dropping into a wild card and we're not getting first exactly so
55:56
there is a possibility you could get second but the chances of that are slim to fraking none and at this point we
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don't even really know who we're playing Florida and the Bruins are only separated by a
56:08
point yeah so realistically we could play either of them and I mentioned on
56:13
the last episode at this point I don't even really care who we play I'm still going to obviously be cheering and think
56:18
the Leafs have a chance because you you do have a chance against anybody um I'm just I'm kind of
56:25
interested to see what happens with the Wild Card races the fact that Tampa is this close to potentially not making it
56:35
like that's something that's a little surprising that's yeah they're tied with
56:40
Philly for third in the Met well I mean too like heavily to Buffalo so
56:46
they're like their spots not secure whatsoever either well Tampa is in the Atlantic
56:52
Rosco so they have to bump the leaf out yeah that's what I mean is like they're tied with like the 76 points with the
56:58
Flyers so I mean as long as they can stay above the Islanders and red wings
57:04
like I don't see them falling behind either of those teams unless they absolutely fall apart
57:10
but it's close race is going to be so so so close what's the West look
57:18
like West yeah Vegas has a four-point lead over Minnesota for the last wild card
57:24
spot Vegas do the last wild card spot
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yep yeah but like Minnesota's points behind them St Louis
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is six points behind them like they have a pretty good
57:41
Gap M Calgary [ __ ] they're not going to make
57:46
it [ __ ] Calgary yeah Calgary is sold they're done yeah Vegas is pretty safe
57:51
for there unless like Minnesota goes on a heater I don't think St Louis can do it
57:59
but what I really wish we had was the 1 to eight playoff format but that's
58:04
probably for another podcast I mean last time we checked it it didn't change who the Le
58:10
played yeah no we we we have checked it I do agree I like that better um to be
58:16
honest I I think it would be fun to do a one to 16 but there's a lot of travel
58:22
complaints about that one yeah or even like a play game or
58:27
something for like the lower teams how about the
58:33
KHL I mentioned in the group chat so the first round's over so the second round
58:38
you cross conferences that's interesting that's
58:47
travel kind from conference games in the regular season though doesn't
58:53
it yes and no I like the fact like yet again with with the history of the
58:58
game I I think there's something to be said for the fact that despite where the teams
59:04
are like right now and and what you think of the teams at this point with the current format you will never ever
59:10
again see a Toronto Montreal stanle Cup Final no but do you need
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[Music] to if the possibility is there that's
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but but I don't think that's in the spirit of what like any professional sports champion ship is it's like who is
59:28
the best like out of each conference you know that if we've split each of these
59:34
Sports into two it's who's the best out of each one like I don't think it I agree with that too geography alone like
59:40
you're never going to have a chto Montreal final but a Conference Final would be just as good I think the the
59:47
last time there was a possibility for chonto Montreal final was 93 the yearman took over because of the
59:54
way the divisions and everything were now that being said if you look at it the other point what are sports sports
1:00:02
entertainment what would be more entertaining having a final that could be Toronto Montreal or
1:00:11
uh I guess Detroit Colorado doesn't work anymore because Detroit's back in the East but or you could even say Detroit
1:00:18
Boston or New York New York historians in both of us agree that
1:00:25
that would be amazing but maybe the present audience wouldn't agree as much maybe it doesn't TV
1:00:33
ratings for a Toronto Montreal final would be a million times better than a Toronto St Louis final seatt that's the
1:00:40
Conference Final though yeah I that's the whole point is like you're battling between like Toronto Montreal Conference
1:00:47
Final is to go to the Stanley Cup like that's what the battle is like that
1:00:53
would be the highest then everything spent at that point you get to that that
1:00:59
high of that you're talking about like two of the biggest fan groups in the whole NHL so if you go to the NHL and if
1:01:05
Montreal is in there or chal's in there your numbers are going to be astronomically bigger than they have
1:01:10
been in the last 30 years I just think it's the last final
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probably I think the only reason that it skews this way is because it's just a fact that the Eastern Conference teams
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have more of a fan base by number I think than the Western Conference teams do like on average so like any it's it's
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more likely that a matchup between two Eastern Conference teams is going to be more of a historic bigger fan base
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matchup than unless you're like Toronto and Edmonton and even then it's like
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yeah I don't know there's Toronto Vancouver again like there's a couple matchups there that would still be so
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never mind the crossover like NBA goes 7 to 10 have a playing tournament how
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would you feel about that the NHL doing that hockey is such a different game for
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oneoff because it is I think is it a two three or is it a
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oneoff um I think it's a two or
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three I I think it is playing playing stuff I've never been able to get behind it
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personally um cuz then you're diminishing all the work you did in the
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regular season I yeah that's I mean if you're if the best you can do is seventh place
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then that's on you like cuz then you go from s to 10 right so that is that could
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be a pretty big gap too depending on the season and it I think it adds more
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excitement and more opportunity for fans to stay engaged longer because I think the problem with the the format of the
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NHL playoffs is fans start to check out like pretty early I mean look the Chicago Blackhawks are already
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mathematically out of the playoffs it adds Revenue too like if you're adding an extra three games possibly for a
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couple teams then yeah uh I think in hockey the question of injuries comes up
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um by adding extra games like that um also it's games that players aren't paid for because it's postseason you have to
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negotiate it with them again but I I I think as far as fans and entertainment and selling the sport goes it's it's
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adding games at an important time and it's adding games for teams that would otherwise just be waiting for next
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season Y Peter strongly disagrees yeah I I
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still don't like the the whole play IDE I like it more I kind of find it's interesting what the NBA is doing with
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this right now especially with leagues that have 32 teams and you're talking about maybe have 34 teams or something
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like that so maybe more than half the teams are not making the playoffs do you have your regular season winners move on
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and everyone plays around to get to them it's a very very interesting thing like
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we're going through right now yeah I think um the next CBA needs
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to include an overhaul of the playoff format because I think there's been a lot of complaints about this current one
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I mean look if we're going Eastern Conference one through eight the Leafs would play the Carolina Hurricanes like
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it's now pretty different last time we checked it would have been exactly the same but so beer your Commish what what
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are you doing with this league for playoff formats well oh for playoff formats oh
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okay um I honestly I would love to do one to
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16 give it a shot just for for the the the pure chaos fact just like a March
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Madness type of thing right like anything can happen so your first round would be the Florida Panthers versus
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Minnesota Wild too much travel there Boston Bruins versus the Philadelphia fers be tough
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like Vancouver Tampa like these would be great series New York gold
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Knights Avalanche I don't I don't disagree crazy conference oh yeah 1 to 16 like oh my
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God that's what I mean the travel a mad man although the funny part
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is Toronto would play Carolina you you can't you can't have a great
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Juggernaut in the fir like in the regular season played [ __ ] Tampa Bay 16 placees you can't have
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that Tamp Tampa's in 14th right now you said was it Vancouver versus tampo is
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that what we just said yeah yeah no no no no but but but aside aside from that
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what are you what are you gaining for being a good regular season team then like really you're playing a l
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opponent but in the format right now it is in the one in the 1 to6 format yeah you'd be playing a lesser OPP in divinal
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format too especially like yeah yeah um like right now you're saying that
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Boston's reward for being the second best team in the conference is to play the Leafs no no I get what you mean
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mathematically it does bump your your opponent down a whole eight spots when you're in first place essentially but
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why not go 18 for conference like it always has been that that would that's probably the
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only way they would ever change it away from closer than what we're doing right
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now and without being like as wild as your proposal which is like hell of a
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lot of fun Vegas would make a shitload of money off it I'm sure B would be
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super thrilled like like the the the under dog stories
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everything the the pure chaos the random rivalries that you could yeah and then
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you would have the the fact that you could legitimately face any team in any
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round so there's not there's not going to be a an absolute of no you'll never
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play this team unless you make the Cup Final or you'll never play this team in the Cup Final right it it could
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literally be any is very very interesting because like if you're
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talking travel really not big of a deal like these guys are taking private Birds it's going to take a couple hours
1:07:31
they're flying in Comfort it's not that big of a deal really and like because it was a couple seasons ago we knew we were
1:07:38
playing t or was it last year we knew we were playing Tampa by like November December yeah we're almost in the same
1:07:44
boat right now playing Florida or basically start we're locked
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in yeah so if you have that greater discrepancy in points when you're
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talking 1 to 16 instead of you know the top three in the division it it can change dayto day who you're going to
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play my my counterargument is just the same one that I had before that like if
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the regular season isn't going to be that much cross conference play then it's hard to justify making the playoffs
1:08:16
so heavily based on like you know the Leafs played Colorado twice through the regular season and now we're going to
1:08:22
play them for a seven series like immediately in the playoffs round one
1:08:28
like that's it like divisional rivalries which is
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what this format actually promotes so yeah that is for sure an argument yeah like I don't want to play
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say we the sen or Montreal are back in the playoff running again I don't want to play them like eight times throughout
1:08:46
the season to not face them at all through a playoff run just because of the way that the randomizer shook out
1:08:53
but we don't play them eight times through the season anymore I think we played the H I think we're playing the Habs like three times this
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freaking year three times this year is that it yeah but it's usually it
1:09:05
it it's yeah that it we don't see the teams seven eight times a season
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anymore well then I I guess if I'm commissioner that's the difference that
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I make is yeah more inter more plays within divisions and like make the
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playoffs more about the best of each of those like if you're going to if the playoff format is you
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come out of your groupings and it's the best of those groupings then make it that if it's not that then abandon that
1:09:36
it seems that we're somewhere in the middle where like the visions and conferences throughout the season don't
1:09:41
matter that much and then as soon as we hit the playoffs it's like okay everybody get in your groups I forget
1:09:46
what group I'm in we haven't talked about this in a while or I with you guys like I feel like Atlantic and even like
1:09:54
Eastern Conference rival they like they still mean something and and to your point like if
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you're battling all season long even for playoff position you want to meet these guys in the playoffs whether it's first
1:10:05
second or third round to get to where you want to go so I I do kind of agree with that style
1:10:11
still yeah I mean if it's about story lines and and you know finishing
1:10:17
rivalries and the finishing the story that's been going on all season with like okay we we've both been fighting to
1:10:22
get to the playoffs and you know like the Leafs and sends in the first round like if that happens again like that's going to be crazy so I just I don't want
1:10:30
to throw that away for oh you know the Leafs came in fourth so we're playing
1:10:37
Calgary in the first round like I don't know we don't have that much of a beef with them because we don't play them
1:10:44
because they're in the west but we did like the the his see and I'm looking
1:10:51
at it from a history standpoint as well you can pretty much look at any team in the West W conference especially the
1:10:57
Canadian teams and there has been some form of historical beef with the leaves
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historical sure but like the people watching it right now that remember and care about it and are you know it's
1:11:10
currently living in their memory like I'm talking besides nazam cadri like I
1:11:15
don't think there's anything on that team that really would get the Leafs fired up about a first round matchup
1:11:21
true many people don't remember the least being in the Western Conference
1:11:28
yeah I mean it's I don't know you got to sell the game and I think there's a way to to do
1:11:34
a better job of that than having these matchups so set in stone so early like I
1:11:40
don't know I like what the pwl did about gaining points once you're eliminated towards getting the first overall pick
1:11:47
but uh as was brought up to me yeah well not not picking your opponent but once you're mathematically
1:11:54
out you're competing like you accumulate points towards getting the first overall pick yeah I like that because then at
1:12:00
least once you're out you're still trying for something but I don't know it does bad teams still
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bad yeah cuz they've been talking about that for a long time and a couple
1:12:15
different people have brought it up that that's a potential for the NHL to do right and then it was brought up okay
1:12:22
well if you're eliminated in March then you can accumulate more points than if you're eliminated or if you're
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eliminated in January you can eliminate get accumulate more points than if you're eliminated in March yeah but I think it was going to be based on like
1:12:34
everything would be weighted so a a win after you're eliminated in March would be worth more than a win after you're
1:12:40
eliminated in January like there's a whole mathal equation for it but yeah
1:12:45
because it's just it's silly on both sides like for the teams that are in the playoffs to be like okay well we know
1:12:51
where we're playing and the teams that are out to be like well what are these games for the next two months matter
1:12:57
like yeah yeah let's tank and draft for M like go for number one yeah it's not
1:13:03
good for fans it's not good for for broadcasters because you want people watching games and if the last month and
1:13:08
a half of the Season literally doesn't matter nobody's going to watch it and your advertising Revenue goes down so
1:13:14
yeah look at NBA like they they had players sitting out for those type of games and now they actually have a rule against that
1:13:21
so yeah except for last weekend that the Clippers complained that they played 22
1:13:27
hours after their previous game because of the time change so a bunch of sad oh
1:13:33
my God typical James Harden didn't have enough time at the the teaser Club I am
1:13:39
glad that the NBA implemented that they had to play a certain amount of games to be eligible for trophies at the end of the year as I think that's the thing
1:13:46
that kept a lot of them playing because those trophies really really matter when it comes to contract negotiations if
1:13:51
you're on the first the second or third All-Star team or if you make all the offensive or all forward team you make
1:13:57
way more money than if you don't oh yeah like it has a significant like value on
1:14:04
it could you imagine like we're in the last week of the season and Matthews wants to sit and they're like you don't
1:14:10
get the rocket if you don't play these three games they're like what it will go to the next person the list if you
1:14:16
another $10 million on your contract for a couple years like it it really makes a huge difference
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